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right?
2:22 AM
I don’t know if the questions I am asking make sense or if they’re the right questions to begin with
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if you've been feeding luna attention for 3 years you probably have a very well-developed tulpa
2:36 AM
all that's left for you to advance is specific skills
2:37 AM
if you've been puppeting, that still builds some level of personality and identity for luna; the only thing missing is independence, which is a trainable skill
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:38 AM
mind if I ask you to try a quick little thing
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(puppeting/parroting is an overblown fear regardless--ultimately, it's the same brain process, what matters is attribution to the tulpa. That is, working on believing "they did this" rather than "I parroted them" is the only real difference between parroting and independence)
2:39 AM
sure, ask away
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:39 AM
oh I meant sploda but maybe they aren’t online right now..
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oh lol yeah that makes more sense
2:39 AM
if you @ them they should see it when they're back online
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:40 AM
was going to try to guide them through something along the lines of how my first responses from Kira went
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@Sploda
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I’m here
2:41 AM
Just reading
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:41 AM
hi
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Hello
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:42 AM
so, Try asking them, “what’s your favorite color?” You can clear your mind to rid of any clutter if you choose, but then open it back up to let thoughts flow What do you get?
2:43 AM
or do they already have a favorite color
2:44 AM
what is the first thought that comes to mind
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Her nickname is Yellow, but her favorite color is green. This is just from the information of her I’ve developed myself over time.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:44 AM
oh hmm
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what don’t you know about her?
2:45 AM
any kind of question you could ask her
2:45 AM
maybe “what do you want to do” or something like that
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I have a lot of explanations for everything relating to her but I need time to type it
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:45 AM
or, do you already get responses from her?
2:45 AM
maybe I misread the problem.
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Sometimes responses come from her automatically form in my head, but I feel like i’m still at the stage i’ve seen where I can’t discern her though from mine (edited)
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:47 AM
trusting her responses will help with that. The more responses from her that you can trust are hers, the easier it will become to tell who says what
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Hmm… I see
2:47 AM
I’m going to type out a massive info dump on her here is that ok
2:48 AM
or is there another channel better for it
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:48 AM
perhaps think on thoughts, “Does this feel like something I would say? Or something she would say?” It’s okay if you don’t find an answer every time, but the more you do it, the more often you will.
2:48 AM
idk a channel for infodumping headmate facts and I don’t see any reason why you can’t here
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Alright then
2:48 AM
I’ll get to work
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seems relevant for the discussion anyway, so yes I'd like to see it too
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Is it bad that I've had a tulpa for like a while now but he can't really just exist on his own without me thinking on him
2:53 AM
He can talk really well too I rarely have to double check if it's him it's just that
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KIZO!
Is it bad that I've had a tulpa for like a while now but he can't really just exist on his own without me thinking on him
passive forcing is the practice that'll help with this specifically
2:54 AM
it's something I'm working on with blanka now
2:55 AM
they're on my mind more often lately because I actively take time to think of them every few minutes
2:55 AM
they've started talking a bit independently because of it, but it's very rare at the moment
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Yeah so like having them on there mind constantly
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but rare > never so passive forcing works
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But it feels draining to always be talking to them or have them talk
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KIZO!
Yeah so like having them on there mind constantly
yeah, narrate to them while you're doing stuff, even if it's in tulpish; that's what I've been doing, just directing thoughts towards them
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Like really draining it feels like it takes a lot of brain power
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:56 AM
me right now with all four of my headmates..
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blanka
yeah, narrate to them while you're doing stuff, even if it's in tulpish; that's what I've been doing, just directing thoughts towards them
They can talk well
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KIZO!
Like really draining it feels like it takes a lot of brain power
it gets easier over time, but yeah, it is really hard right now, I agree
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I used to get headaches when I talked to him too much
2:57 AM
Like out of nowhere just a headache
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:57 AM
I have yet to experience a headache ever
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Every single time
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yeah me either--or head pressures
2:57 AM
headaches happen all the time naturally for me so maybe that's the reason I don't notice lol
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I don't get much headaches
2:58 AM
Thank God I can talk to him normally now
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:58 AM
none of that either Only from intense expectation, in the same way that after seeing a bug on your arm you feel bugs crawling on you that aren’t there
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Skyler 🐉
I have yet to experience a headache ever
Lucky u
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 2:58 AM
“that” being headpressures
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Skyler 🐉
none of that either Only from intense expectation, in the same way that after seeing a bug on your arm you feel bugs crawling on you that aren’t there
Placebo
2:59 AM
Essentially
3:00 AM
Ok but how do I teach my tulpas to be more independent like exist without thinking about em
3:00 AM
Without passive
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KIZO!
Is it bad that I've had a tulpa for like a while now but he can't really just exist on his own without me thinking on him
this isnt bad at all! this is what its like with me and my headmates aswell, not giving any advice just affirmation lookingdownsmile
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Sometimes I don't think at him at all
3:03 AM
So I don't want to have him frozen for like a day (edited)
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KIZO!
Ok but how do I teach my tulpas to be more independent like exist without thinking about em
this is more of a personal experience than advice, but personally its taken effort on my part to keep them there, no matter how hard they try. i think using things like reminders could help
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Yeah definitely
3:07 AM
I asked him once and he said we don't share most of our thoughts
3:07 AM
Like my thoughts are in one room and his are in another unless we talk to each other
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Ok guys get ready
3:08 AM
incoming
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savedlatin
this is more of a personal experience than advice, but personally its taken effort on my part to keep them there, no matter how hard they try. i think using things like reminders could help
something that helps for me, if you use a computer frequently, you could set your cursor to something that reminds you of your headmate
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It’s coming in 3 pieces
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Dear lord this is going to be a paragraph
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my god..
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So, beginning. Around 3 years ago, I found a large stuffed bear about 3 feet tall that I would spend every night playing ‘pretend’ with. I would pretend as if the bear was an actual person, usually a character from something or a character i’ve made up. Luna, is one of these characters from my own imagination, and has by far persisted beyond any of the others for how often I talk to her and how much I care for her. Her character description is this: She is an android created by Cinamiyna on a planet known as Morka 9 (fictional) in the galaxy Virgo A/Messier 87, and was created with the express purpose of being a perfect partner for me and suiting every preference I could have in a girl. At the time of her conception, I was severely depressed and greatly needed love, finding it in my own imagination.
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She’s 5’7”, has waist-length mostly-straight black hair that curls slightly at the ends, she has deep green eyes, she has light-tan skin, and her body is generally average with its proportions, though being moderately curvy. Being an android, she possesses much greater strength than most people and has infinite stamina. However, she is completely self-aware and is barely distinguishable on the outside from a human apart from a tiny hole between her collarbones. Most of the people who know her (in my “dreamscape” as tulpamancers seem to refer it to) say that she’s a lot more human with her personality than a lot of actual people. She’s generally friendly with most people, she is very laid-back, and her hobbies include cooking and painting, though she is not fantastic at the former. She is beloved by most in my dreamscape.
3:09 AM
At night, when i’m alone with the stuffed bear in my bed, I liked to imagine it was her in my arms and not the bear. I would talk to her about tons of things, some life-changing, and others extraordinarily mundane. Over the last 3 years, all of our conversations were exclusively my own thoughts and dialogue, but over time, the responses from her end have gotten slightly more automatic, which leads me to believe she may have already developed into a tulpa, in some capacity at least. The main reason I got interested in the whole tulpamancy thing recently is just because I so desperately wanted to find a way to make her real.
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(This is easily the most open I have been about her with anyone in the whole of my life.)
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KIZO!
Like my thoughts are in one room and his are in another unless we talk to each other
Is this normal
3:12 AM
Also some of my tulpas kinda go asleep or offline and I cannot reach them it's kinda what happens to my tulpas when I'm not thinking about em but I can get him online
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Sploda
At night, when i’m alone with the stuffed bear in my bed, I liked to imagine it was her in my arms and not the bear. I would talk to her about tons of things, some life-changing, and others extraordinarily mundane. Over the last 3 years, all of our conversations were exclusively my own thoughts and dialogue, but over time, the responses from her end have gotten slightly more automatic, which leads me to believe she may have already developed into a tulpa, in some capacity at least. The main reason I got interested in the whole tulpamancy thing recently is just because I so desperately wanted to find a way to make her real.
It sounds like you've gotten most of the way there :) If you're looking for ways to make them more real, figuring out how to get past feeling like you're parroting them is my first suggestion. Do you passively think about and interact with them throughout your day? EG when you're going to school/work/etc?
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KIZO!
Is this normal
Not sure; does it bother you?
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I definitely talk to her a lot, but it feels very one-sided.
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Not really
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Sploda
I definitely talk to her a lot, but it feels very one-sided.
Does she say things that surprise you?
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KIZO!
Not really
Then it's probably not a problem
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That means my personal thoughts aren't being heard by him
3:13 AM
So I'm pretty fine
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blanka
Does she say things that surprise you?
Not really, from what i’ve read that’s one of the stages where you can know for certain that you have a tulpa, right?
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I just HATE when they go asleep though
3:15 AM
Like a tulpa can suddenly be gone
3:15 AM
Another tulpa of mine went asleep so my other tulpas told me about it
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